tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18864736006436270672024-02-19T01:33:10.456-05:00A TBM BlogPaid Remnant Influencer. Thought Leader.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-29994123224347373052022-09-19T13:48:00.016-04:002022-09-19T13:53:34.498-04:00I Do Declare<p> </p><a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2022/09/september-23-25-conference/">https://denversnuffer.com/2022/09/september-23-25-conference/</a><div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJ2ZExHpsKwQOJv5AOgfG3n3OLYlbwQen9wHK2UpGT6wtT7ZxF1829T-2ksks_6JnqCtCPdUtFuhRuZ2gX6iJEwoJozjmLw35bnlOs0uBQ3fFq6oiEZgwQgCMjws0P9lxpch5wmod9HGNf1CazsiOnmp9ynUhlWK5PQqvg75lmwnpw6AuOvwlOjXJw/s800/bateman.jpeg" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="450" data-original-width="800" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJ2ZExHpsKwQOJv5AOgfG3n3OLYlbwQen9wHK2UpGT6wtT7ZxF1829T-2ksks_6JnqCtCPdUtFuhRuZ2gX6iJEwoJozjmLw35bnlOs0uBQ3fFq6oiEZgwQgCMjws0P9lxpch5wmod9HGNf1CazsiOnmp9ynUhlWK5PQqvg75lmwnpw6AuOvwlOjXJw/s320/bateman.jpeg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh6C3b4vi81wqsD2hyO8-vCa_NpSt1ZEqyPqzWXwbOKKe-nTfBkiguYaPr1VtEFGhd4wgij8cAth1t3fLbUyxLGHsT_QFheEjOEI4y_F8V1txaQq5qL2mH0bGpDd42uBBeR5IxgSaH76U0S7BOw5fgZatIQ3gtCPPEzaXYA9gd_rOEakzT1C4PZWOVT/s984/Screen%20Shot%202022-09-19%20at%201.51.00%20PM.png" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="656" data-original-width="984" height="213" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh6C3b4vi81wqsD2hyO8-vCa_NpSt1ZEqyPqzWXwbOKKe-nTfBkiguYaPr1VtEFGhd4wgij8cAth1t3fLbUyxLGHsT_QFheEjOEI4y_F8V1txaQq5qL2mH0bGpDd42uBBeR5IxgSaH76U0S7BOw5fgZatIQ3gtCPPEzaXYA9gd_rOEakzT1C4PZWOVT/s320/Screen%20Shot%202022-09-19%20at%201.51.00%20PM.png" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img alt="Impressive GIF - Christian Bale A Merican Psycho Very Nice GIFs" src="https://c.tenor.com/OeDrZfmcbzoAAAAC/christian-bale-a-merican-psycho.gif" /></p></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-29851881515258224392021-08-26T15:01:00.000-04:002021-08-26T15:01:10.082-04:00Zion and the jab<p>I was reading the “<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/5n884wkbo2yek35/Response%20from%20the%20Lord%20on%20Statement%20of%20Principles.pdf?dl=0" target="_blank">build a house</a>” parable today. The group who wanted to haul the stone to the place had the much harder path than those who found the clay on site and made bricks. </p><p></p><blockquote>"Those who had compassion said, The master's house is finished. What need is there for further labor to carry stone for the house? Let us not waste the effort of our fellow servants who have labored hardest, and we will put the stones to good use."</blockquote><p></p><p>The stone builders were in the wrong, but those who had compassion (and the master) found value in the labor of the stoners.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the end the Master said that </p><p></p><blockquote>"all of you have labored to do as I have commanded, and proven your faithfulness."</blockquote><p></p><p>--even though there was “a season of quarreling and disputing”</p><blockquote><p>"I ask again, <b>What have you learned? What ought you to have learned?</b></p><p>…But I say again, <b>there was honor in the labor of others</b>. Whereas I look upon the heart and see faithful service, <i>many among you do not look at, nor see, nor value what I the Lord love in the hearts of my people</i>. As I have said before, I say again, <b>Love one another, labor willingly alongside each other….All who have been faithful are mine.</b>" (emphasis mine)</p></blockquote><p></p><p>There are specific and general implications in this parable. Perhaps one thing that we ought to have learned is that it seems that the master is very generous in accepting the genuine labor of the servants, <i>even if it happens to be wrongheaded</i>. Perhaps the Lord isn't looking for a people who are right about everything all the time.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So let’s <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2021/05/what-the-hell/" target="_blank">talk</a> <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2021/05/wth-part-2/" target="_blank">politics</a> <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2021/05/wth-part-3/" target="_blank">and</a> <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2021/05/wth-part-4-conclusion/" target="_blank">covid</a> and all that. Those who believe that the vax is more bad than good probably have an obligation to warn their neighbor about it. And those who believe the vax is more good than bad probably have an obligation to warn their neighbor about it. One group is more or less correct. <span style="font-family: inherit;">Time will perhaps tell.</span></p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white; orphans: 2; widows: 2;">"<a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2021/05/wth-part-3/" target="_blank">Friendships have been and are being undermined</a> because of conflicting opinions about this virus. A great deal of the basis for the current opinions are based upon rumors, suspicions, fears and outright lies. Both ill-informed social media and respected leaders have used this as a wedge issue to divide us. Why are we letting that happen? It is our choice to respond with fear and anger."</span></span></p></blockquote><p><span style="font-family: inherit;">There is honor in both people’s labor, even if they see the world differently from you. If we cease to be able to labor willingly alongside each other, we may be in danger of not being considered faithful.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-14268054604047434562020-09-14T20:34:00.000-04:002020-09-14T20:34:54.489-04:00Baghdad & Babylon<p> Five years ago Dave posted on his blog:</p><span class="im"><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><a href="http://denversnuffer.com/2015/02/babylon/" target="_blank">"The God of Heaven tells me all the world should pray that Baghdad does not fall." </a></span></blockquote></span><div><div><br /></div><div>It seemed to me at the time that the issue at hand for Baghdad at the time was ISIS, who occupied territory near Baghdad. I said my prayers for Baghdad at the time, and while I can't <i>definitively</i> take credit for the downfall of ISIS, ISIS definitely seems to have been defeated. Indeed, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISIL_territorial_claims" target="_blank">ISIS peaked in late 2014</a> and was already beginning to decline by the time Denver made this post in February 2015, with Iraqi forces retaking Tikrit (87 miles NW of Baghdad) on <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/world/isis-fast-facts/index.html" target="_blank">March 12, 2015</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj__lYfFfafLTCewISM_5XZOyWHW56yvx4SbsRviPYPLbdLjqlkOVYPcpMUZvyOXUhF1Xq53gfhVB0K3p9rJdAbDIlU5UEbTvL-63D7cszURsYENF0Rtc1oshWGkYCtDXH5TIhauRTKatE/s794/ISIS.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="397" data-original-width="794" height="250" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj__lYfFfafLTCewISM_5XZOyWHW56yvx4SbsRviPYPLbdLjqlkOVYPcpMUZvyOXUhF1Xq53gfhVB0K3p9rJdAbDIlU5UEbTvL-63D7cszURsYENF0Rtc1oshWGkYCtDXH5TIhauRTKatE/w500-h250/ISIS.jpeg" width="500" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>But May 28, 2015 Dave followed up with another post, just after ISIS took control of <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/world/isis-fast-facts/index.html" target="_blank">Ramadi on May 17</a>, 68 miles to the west of Baghdad:</div></div><div><br /></div><span class="im"><blockquote style="border: none; color: #500050; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><a href="http://denversnuffer.com/2015/05/lamentation-for-baghdad/" target="_blank">"Days of distress are upon Baghdad and the days of their troubles are begun. Distress shall overtake them, for those who come shall have no pity."</a></span></blockquote><p>This seems to indicate that Baghdad would fall, and that our prayers did not abate the Lord's ire. However, ISIS has seemed to be the nation to fall, and Baghdad remains in the hands of the Iraqis. </p></span><div>But the title of the Denver's February post is <i>Babylon</i>, not <i>Baghdad</i>. And while Baghdad falls within the borders old Babylonian empire, I'm wondering if Baghdad actually means Babylon, as in </div><div><br /></div><div><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;">"The God of Heaven tells me all the world should pray that <b>Babylon</b> does not fall." </span></blockquote><br /><div></div></div><div>But then why would we pray that Babylon does not fall, when Babylon are the bad guys? Shouldn't we be praying that Babylon <i>does</i> fall? Perhaps it depends on what replaces Babylon, and what happens between the fall of Babylon and the Lord's return in glory. Much like what replaced Saddam Hussein in Baghdad wasn't necessarily an improvement over Saddam (even though he was a monster), the chaos that follows the fall of Babylon and its economic and political institutions might be even worse than Babylon <u>if Zion is not ready</u> for the fall of Babylon. </div><div><br /></div><div>If we take our parallels from the Book of Mormon, are the Gadianton robbers Babylon, or are they what comes <i>after</i> Babylon? Or if the Gadiantons are Babylon, then what follows is the low point of 3 Nephi before the coming of the Lord--the fall of the government, the people dividing into tribes, and eventually, destruction. The Book of Mormon makes no specific mention of Babylon by name on the Large Plates of Nephi (only on the small plates). </div><div><br /></div><div>So if <i>Baghdad means Babylon</i> in Dave's first post, does the followup post fit <i>Babylon</i> rather than <i>Baghdad</i>?</div><div><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><div><span style="font-size: medium;">"Days of distress are upon <b>Babylon</b> and the days of their troubles are begun. Distress shall overtake them, for those who come shall have no pity."</span></div><div><br /></div></blockquote><div></div></div><div>In 2019 I would have said no, but this year...well, all of Babylon's institutions seem to be crumbling. I don't know who will win the 2020 US election, but I will predict with confidence that whoever loses this election will not see the outcome as legitimate. </div><div><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" /></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-88324794576971682262020-04-05T14:39:00.001-04:002020-04-05T15:45:47.042-04:00Interesting symbolism in the hosanna shout<div data-reddit-rtjson="{"entityMap":{},"blocks":[{"key":"dvrou","text":"We've had 5 proclamations now. Like them or not, the 1st 3 all had new information, and were not received with a hosanna shout.","type":"unstyled","depth":0,"inlineStyleRanges":[],"entityRanges":[],"data":{}},{"key":"e8epp","text":"The symbolism of 3 old men alone in a room shouting hosanna has some impressive symbolism. 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<span data-offset-key="allhg-0-0">But the word <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2020/04/hosanna-shout/" target="_blank">hosanna</a>--God save us-- is fitting: We can still look to God and not these jokers.</span></div>
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Given that <a href="https://atbmblog.blogspot.com/2017/12/what-does-it-take-to-get-rejected.html" target="_blank">failure is definitely an option</a> for us...<br />
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Are we deferring too much to Dave and in so being <a href="https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/nauvoo-relief-society-minute-book/48" target="_blank">darkened in our minds</a>? A comment from Denver holds a lot of weight in deciding relatively inconsequential matters:<br />
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<a href="https://www.totheremnant.com/2019/10/what-happened-to-vote.html" target="_blank">Some thoughts shared with me from a conversation Denver had with one of the committee members indicated that the chronological order of that particular talk (OUR DIVINE PARENTS) is not critical.</a></blockquote>
While I believe Dave <a href="https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/the-sod-of-yhwh-and-the-endowment/" target="_blank">has stood before the divine council</a>, part of me wonders if we should not be ascribing special weight to his opinions in places where he is not claiming any revelation. <br />
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I don't say this to call out others for their deficiencies, I see this in myself. We need a society of prophets, where no one says "Know ye the Lord?" but I am not a prophet. And the reason why we all defer to Denver is that we don't trust anyone else to be a prophet for us. <br />
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I think the solution isn't for me to be able to trust your revelations, or for you to trust my revelations.<br />
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It is for us to each get our own revelations. For every man to stand or fall by himself, and to allow his neighbor to stand <i><u>or fall</u> </i>by himself. To have <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A12-16&version=NRSV" target="_blank">the law written on our hearts. (Romans 2:15)</a>. For me to trust you to get revelations <i>for you</i>, and for you to trust me to get revelations <i>for me</i>.<br />
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But what would our society look like if we were all our own prophets? We've never seen such a society, and the scriptures are scant on the issue.<br />
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It seems likely that we would be in each others' business a bit less, trusting that each can hear God's advice. And for those who can't hear God's voice, that would be job one for that person. <br />
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But sometimes a covenant body needs to coordinate to accomplish something, like write a statement of principles or build a temple.<br />
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How on earth do we coordinate to build a temple? If the temple is our bodies housing the Spirit of God, then the answer is well-known. But if it's a physical building that a corporeal Jesus will visit, then there will need to be coordination among a body of believers. But I suspect the command to build a temple will not come until the covenant body has the law written on each member's heart, where each of us (or enough of us) is led by the Spirit. If a command to build a temple comes and we do not have the law written on our hearts, then it will end like Nauvoo. If our hearts aren't right, <i>none of this matters</i>. If our hearts were right, we could coordinate like starlings, with no one in charge but the Lord. I think Dave is really tired of being the head guy in this movement.<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Matters of governance such as which of Dave's quotes to include in our scriptures are only practice in learning to get along at this point. Keep in mind that if the movement succeeds, we get Jesus and an unsealed Book of Mormon. A hundred years from now, our yak leather bound set of remnant scriptures will either be replaced with white stones, or it will be kept in an Lamanite museum next to Brigham's walking cane and the conference center podium made from GBH's tree as a reminder of the hubris of failed dispensations.</span><br />
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<i>None of this matters</i> if we aren't individual prophets. <i>It just doesn't matter</i> if we include words denoting that a loving Mother was behind the word of wisdom.<br />
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It just doesn't matter if we get the scripture project exactly perfect. <br />
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It just doesn't matter if we got the best Guide & Standard or not. <br />
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It just doesn't matter if Dave is a truer prophet than Russ.<br />
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It only matters that we each become the kind of people who can live in peace, because those are the people that the <a href="http://scriptures.info/scriptures/nt/luke/10.5#5" target="_blank">angels can gather</a> to Zion. <br />
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Many of us (myself included) have forgotten why we got on this spiritual path in the first place. It was because we each discovered that <i>the keeper of the gate is the Holy One of Israel, and he employeth no servant there</i>. That we should follow no man. <br />
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But now we are in real danger of being The Church <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2012/02/some-of-christ/" target="_blank">Of Denver</a>, "but receiv[ing] not the gospel, neither the testimony of Jesus, neither the prophets, neither the everlasting covenant.” <a href="https://atbmblog.blogspot.com/2017/11/daves-strongman-catch-22.html" target="_blank">Against Denver's wishes</a>, ironically.<br />
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If we fail, let's at least fail differently from the LDS from which we came.<br />
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-51792714442849565212019-08-18T17:55:00.002-04:002019-08-18T17:57:38.295-04:00Abinadi & SidneyCompare these two firebrand preachers:<br />
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Yea, wo be unto this generation! And the Lord said unto me: Stretch forth thy hand and prophesy, saying: Thus saith the Lord, it shall come to pass that this generation, because of their iniquities, shall be brought into bondage, and shall be smitten on the cheek; yea, and shall be driven by men, and shall be slain; and the vultures of the air, and the dogs, yea, and the wild beasts, shall devour their flesh. And it shall come to pass that the life of king Noah shall be valued even as a garment in a hot furnace; for he shall know that I am the Lord. And it shall come to pass that I will smite this my people with sore afflictions, yea, with famine and with pestilence; and I will cause that they shall howl all the day long.
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Yea, and I will cause that they shall have burdens lashed upon their backs; and they shall be driven before like a dumb ass. And it shall come to pass that I will send forth hail among them, and it shall smite them; and they shall also be smitten with the east wind; and insects shall pester their land also, and devour their grain. And they shall be smitten with a great pestilence—and all this will I do because of their iniquities and abominations.
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And it shall come to pass that except they repent I will utterly destroy them from off the face of the earth; yet they shall leave a record behind them, and I will preserve them for other nations which shall possess the land; yea, even this will I do that I may discover the abominations of this people to other nations. And many things did Abinadi prophesy against this people.
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One cause of our heavy persecutions, is the influence which those have in the world, whom we have separated from the fellowship of the church for their wickedness; who attempted to gratify their vengeance on us, and also to hide their own shame, by foul slanders and base calumny. We were at one time represented by them, as having all things common: at another as being enemies to the government: and in other places we were reported to be abolitionists, and indeed any thing, they thought best calculated to stir up the public mind, and to excite popular indignation; and if possible, put an end to the work, by sacrificing some of those who were considered as most active in supporting and defending the cause. But through the mercy of God, we are still in existence, and have the opportunity of joining with you in the privileges of this day.
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Our cheeks have been given to the smiters, and our heads to those who have plucked off the hair. We have not only when smitten on one cheek turned the other, but we have done it, again and again, until we are wearied of being smitten, and tired of being trampled upon. We have proved the world with kindness; we have suffered their abuse without cause, with patience, and have endured without resentment, until this day, and still their persecutions and violence does not cease. But from this day and this hour, we will suffer it no more.
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We take God and all the holy angels to witness this day, that we warn all men in the name of Jesus Christ, to come on us no more forever, for from this hour, we will bear it no more, our rights shall no more be trampled on with impunity. The man or the set of men, who attempts it, does it at the expense of their lives. And that mob that comes on us to disturb us; it shall be between us and them a war of extermination, for we will follow them, till the last drop of their blood is spilled, or else they will have to exterminate us: for we will carry the seal of war to their own houses, and their own families, and one party or the other shall be utterly destroyed.</div>
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On the left, we have Abinadi, and on the right we have <a href="http://www.tungate.com/sr_july_4.htm" target="_blank">Sidney Rigdon</a>. Both were preaching hellfire & damnation to a wicked generation. <u>Abinadi did so by God's request</u>. <u>Sidney did so on his own errand</u>.<br />
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Abinadi's words, while they got Abinadi burned, lit a fire in the heart of Alma and created a movement that swept the Nephite nation. Sidney's words enflamed the hearts of the Missourians with anger to burn the homes of many saints. <br />
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While the duty is upon us to warn our neighbor, it is not our duty to poke the beast. Warn your neighbor one on one as the Spirit suggests. If God asks us to publicly recite the abominations of LDSCorp, then, of course we should do so. But your friends and family are less likely to listen to you after you get excommunicated. Provoking a billion dollar church with its own <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strengthening_Church_Members_Committee" target="_blank">semi-secret police</a> will likely <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2012/10/parable/" target="_blank">turn out badly</a>, nor will it bring Zion. My uneducated opinion is that Zion gets established quietly, gathered <a href="http://scriptures.info/scriptures/nt/luke/10.5#5" target="_blank">by angels</a>. The LDSCorp should worry about John Dehlin more than it should worry about the remnant.<br />
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Be charitable and patient and labor to reach others. They will judge you harshly, but nevertheless be kind to them. They are going to grow to fear you, but that’s only part of how darkness responds to light. <b>Give them no reason to fear you</b>. The time will come for us to gather, but between now and then, be leaven. Preserve the world. Be salt. Preserve the world, even if it hates you.</blockquote>
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<br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-31068974989902287122019-03-22T14:17:00.000-04:002019-04-29T17:38:26.759-04:00Life is Unfair, But You Knew ThatNote: Tim Malone was kind enough to post this on his blog for me some years ago here:<br />
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Why is there suffering? And why is life so unfair? Why do some have bigger burdens than others? Why do so many people live in poor wartorn countries?<br />
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One possibility is that the abused deserve their abuse—that perhaps they were an abuser in a previous life. This kind of thinking, even if true, can enable abusers—“You totally deserve my abuse, who am I not to fulfill God’s will?" This is the dark side of Hindusim--"we have a caste system because God wills it--we brahmins are on top because of our exceeding righteousness in the past life and you losers are living in squalor because you weren't as righteous in the last life.” Even modern prophets seers and/or revelators can fall victim to this kind of thinking:</div>
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"This privilege of obtaining a mortal body on this earth is seemingly so priceless that those in the spirit world, even though unfaithful or not valient, were undoubtedly permitted to take mortal bodies although under penalty of racial or physical or nationalistic limitations…." Harold B. Lee<br />
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Look at the 9th parable in Dave's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ten-Parables-Denver-C-Snuffer-ebook/dp/B004H8GBW2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ten+parables&qid=1553277383&s=gateway&sr=8-1" target="_blank">10 parables</a>. My interpretation of it is, basically, that those who followed Lucifer in the premortal life are invited back into the kingdom. Many who were righteous were upset by this and walked out on God. <u>The test is not what we think it is.</u></div>
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Matthew 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.<br />
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7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.<br />
8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.<br />
9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.<br />
10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.<br />
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14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.<br />
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16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.</blockquote>
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When we <i>perceive</i> that we are treated unfairly, <u>we seek compensation</u> to make up for our unfair treatment. We think it will be just if something is taken from the person who has more and given to the person who has less. Well, maybe we only think it is unjust if we are the person who has less. (When we have more, we pat ourselves on the back and assume that we totally earned it.) This motivation is at the heart of those who seek revenge for mistreatments, either real or perceived.</div>
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The King called his city together and told them of a great competition he and his council had devised. “All the city would compete,” he announced. They would proceed in turns to go into the coliseum and compete on the field. All were welcome to watch before or after they participated, but all would have to compete. The competition would test the citizen’s loyalty, while also improving the lives of the citizens.</div>
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“Why are those who rejected your plan allowed to be among us?” they inquired.</div>
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The great feast turned into a great argument among the residents who stayed and those who had fled. Eventually the people divided themselves into two groups. In one, the King was beloved and his plan was held in esteem. In the other, the King was resented, or worse, hated. They found fault with the King, with his plan, and with the uproar caused among the citizens by the King’s great folly.</div>
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“I knew when the competition was devised it would divide the people. I knew, too, that some would flee rather than participate. I also knew if I invited back to a feast all of the citizens, both those who stayed and those who fled, that it would result in a great division. This was my purpose all along.</div>
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“We are faced with many challenges. Some are in forms which you do not understand. They will test all of us. I must know before we confront the coming challenges who I can trust to remain loyal in my kingdom. Today I know.</div>
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“All those who have been loyal have been identified. They will remain in my kingdom. All those who have rejected my plan, or spoken against me in hatred, will be removed from my kingdom. Those who leave are free to follow their own course. However, they cannot be among my people any longer, for they have been tested and failed in their loyalty.”</div>
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It required a battle to remove those who were to be exiled. Many argued they had endured all the King had asked and only spoken ill of him when the disaffected exiles returned. They claimed it was unfair to have been put through this final test of loyalty after allowing the return of the exiles. They argued a feast that included those who refused the King’s request was unfair. It rewarded all alike; the loyal and the disloyal. They claimed their final disloyalty came only as a result of their original loyalty later proving to be of no value, since even the exiles came to the final feast.</div>
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Others complained that the King was mad. His whole course was destructive of a people who had once lived in harmony and peace. They claimed it was the King who should be thrown in exile; not the citizens who were discomforted by the King disturbing their peace.</div>
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Still others complained the King was never honest with them. Had they known this was to be the result, they would have been loyal throughout. They thought it unfair he kept his counsel to himself and thereby lulled them into disfavor.</div>
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Yet others complained the King gave them too hard a test. It was unfair. Although they had passed the test, they had family members and friends who failed and if these whom they loved had failed they would refuse for their loved ones’ sake to remain with the King.</div>
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All the arguments were unavailing. The King expelled them all. When the kingdom was set, and none but the loyal remained, the King again called a great assembly of his people. To all those who remained the King announced, “I discovered long ago the power to make my kingdom last forever. I am now prepared to share the secrets of all I know with my people. From this day forward you will no longer be citizens in my kingdom, but you will be kings and queens, sharing with me in life which will never end.</div>
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“All of us who remain in this kingdom have lost friends, family members and others whom we love. However, all who remain will be able to live in peace, forever.”</div>
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There is not now, and never has been, a kingdom more stable, more happy, more at peace, and more enduring than this King’s. Though he ceased to reign as a king, he continued to be loved above all others. For he was the one who brought to life the happiest people of all.</div>
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<br /></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-27162168520061014462019-01-03T22:06:00.000-05:002019-01-03T22:06:03.959-05:00Ezekiel & Kurt<div style="text-align: right;">
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-73387356538394924002018-12-13T13:03:00.001-05:002018-12-13T13:03:34.458-05:00Nephi and the lawHat tip to my wife and Max Skousen on this. So the deal with 1 Nephi 3:7<br />
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my heart exclaimeth: <b>O wretched man that I am</b>! Yea, my heart sorroweth because of my flesh; my soul grieveth because of mine iniquities. 18 <b>I am encompassed about, because of the temptations and the sins which do so easily beset me</b>. 19 And when I desire to rejoice, <b>my heart groaneth because of my sins</b>; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted.</blockquote>
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25 For, for this end was the law given; <b>wherefore the law hath become dead unto us</b>, and <b>we are made alive in Christ because of our faith</b>; <u>yet we keep the law</u> because of the commandments. 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins. 27 Wherefore, we speak concerning the law that our children may know the deadness of the law; and they, by knowing the deadness of the law, may look forward unto that life which is in Christ, and know for what end the law was given. And after the law is fulfilled in Christ, that they need not harden their hearts against him when the law ought to be done away.</blockquote>
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The law is dead and Nephi is alive in Christ. Nephi's <a href="https://www.mormoninterpreter.com/nephis-change-of-heart/" target="_blank">character arc</a> takes him from a righteous young man who thinks he can live the law perfectly into a righteous old man who is transformed by grace.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-78547739334360036252018-11-11T16:54:00.000-05:002018-11-11T16:54:58.007-05:00Announcement: Infinite Remnant Broadcast<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinEtk9bkhNUVUDbmbEPIrCRw85LP7Y84bMIkUni0i1LiZJfGQA6mhZEizbJPckz9rDB5KwpMGXwR-OE1tUb6hKa-QyjKIBXiUZECR57uiCLwLWawz8TE34w3at3M9Ifkn-uSKJ9LQUyCg/s1600/Seti.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="660" data-original-width="1170" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinEtk9bkhNUVUDbmbEPIrCRw85LP7Y84bMIkUni0i1LiZJfGQA6mhZEizbJPckz9rDB5KwpMGXwR-OE1tUb6hKa-QyjKIBXiUZECR57uiCLwLWawz8TE34w3at3M9Ifkn-uSKJ9LQUyCg/s320/Seti.jpg" width="320" /></a>We, as a covenant people, applaud the efforts in engraving the eternal teachings of Denver, even, Dave, on metal plates to be found by future generations after the <a href="https://denversnuffer.com/2010/05/i-am-the-lord-that-smiteth/" target="_blank">coronal mass ejection</a> wipes out our modern technologies.<br />
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In addition to this effort, scientists from the LZ Slackers Fellowship, with help from <a href="http://www.johnpratt.com/" target="_blank">John Pratt</a>, are announcing a new initiative. In an effort to seek the lost sheep remnant, wherever they may be found, we will be broadcasting the complete The Servant Denver Snuffer discography toward <a href="http://johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/4stars.html" target="_blank">Antares</a>.<br />
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<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYLMXtK-Otl8JuVn53neQm7fi_EzPEldozR6SoQto5xbNoEK1GQh-rur9gFunfRcv7DhcqiUqI-p1exfF56yb6HC2EEeLkISBHmeq1FJsJCZLbA6z6Yb5wP5Cfxvoz9cv6ils3My-cmF4/s1600/moleman.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1033" data-original-width="1600" height="256" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYLMXtK-Otl8JuVn53neQm7fi_EzPEldozR6SoQto5xbNoEK1GQh-rur9gFunfRcv7DhcqiUqI-p1exfF56yb6HC2EEeLkISBHmeq1FJsJCZLbA6z6Yb5wP5Cfxvoz9cv6ils3My-cmF4/s400/moleman.jpg" width="400" /></a>Furthermore, we will be initiating a broadcast of this message underground for subterranean Israelites. They will be invited to bring their prophets and <a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/133.30" target="_blank">their rich treasures</a>, which, we can only assume, consist of a big pile of diamonds to buy us a temple.<br />
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<br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-65465385645971083762018-09-11T20:14:00.000-04:002018-09-11T20:14:34.574-04:00Touch the Truck for Enlightenment<br />
Young Buddha sought enlightenment, and a car. Dharma told him he had a great journey ahead of him, for which he would need both. A local radio station was holding a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_the_Truck" target="_blank">touch the truck</a> contest, in which the last person to remove his hands from the car, wins the car.<br />
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A month passed. Some of the Buddhas had bowed out of the contest. They didn't get the car. It wasn't clear if they received enlightenment. The radio station didn't expect this to take so long, so they made an addition to the rules:<br />
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The impasse remained. A year went by. The arguing had died down, but no new solutions were offered. A few Buddhas took their hands off the car and left. The long wait gave Young Buddha the time to think, and meditate, and pray. As more time passed, more Buddhas took their hands off the car, and walked away. Some angrily, some peacefully. Young Buddha's resolve remained firm. After all, without the patience to wait for the car, how could he have the patience to withstand the great journey ahead?<br />
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A few more Buddhas left until there was only one other Buddha left beside Young Buddha. They had never agreed on how to share the car, but over the years they had become great friends. Neither diminished in their resolve, each truly believing that the great journey could not be accomplished with the other's plan for the car. Still, while their resolve was never diminished, their desire to convince the other was, their thoughts turning inward to meditation. Finally, Young Buddha, decided that his love for his Buddha brother was so great that he could trust him to decide what to do with the car. Young Buddha arose, took his hands off the car and walked away. The car had served its purpose moving him forward on his great journey.<br />
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Two things that you might want to consider hanging on your wall and living by to improve the happiness of your family:<br />
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-6119577861668094702018-04-01T21:56:00.004-04:002018-04-01T22:04:06.357-04:00Continuing RevelationRussell M. Nelson: I called 2 new apostles, overhauled Home & Visiting Teaching, and restructured Melchizedek Priesthood quorums. How's that for continuing revelation bitches?<br />
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Dave: Hold my beer: <a href="http://denversnuffer.com/2018/03/our-divine-parents/">http://denversnuffer.com/2018/03/our-divine-parents/</a><br />
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<br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-5416002059707579612018-03-07T12:23:00.001-05:002018-03-07T12:23:59.649-05:00How bad do we want Zion?How bad do we want Zion?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to keep all of God's commandments?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to give of our substance to the poor?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to wait a very, very long time?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to be of one heart with many folks we barely know?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to take the 4 questions of the covenant?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to remove those who stand in our way?<br />
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So bad that we're willing to fight a war against those who oppose us? To crush our enemies? To see them driven before us, and hear the lamentations of their women?<br />
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How bad do we want Zion?Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-28576354169333595852018-03-04T19:40:00.001-05:002018-03-04T19:46:10.326-05:00I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.Dumb question:<br />
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If we adopted a really stupid G&S (e.g. this:)<br />
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But loved each other as ourselves and shared our substance freely, would we be accepted of God? Would we still meet Enochville, fall on each others necks and canoodle with each other, and all that?<br />
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<span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">But what think ye? A </span><i style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: justify; widows: 2;">certain</i><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;"> man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. </span><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. </span><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I </span><i style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: justify; widows: 2;">go</i><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">, sir: and went not. </span><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">Whether of them twain did the will of </span><i style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: justify; widows: 2;">his</i><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;"> father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. </span><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen </span><i style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: justify; widows: 2;">it</i><span style="background-color: #fdfeff; color: #001320; font-family: "trebuchet" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-align: justify;">, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.</span></blockquote>
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“When the definition was given, it was accompanied by the realization that the Lord could’ve disputed every day of His life with someone. He deliberately chose to not contend. He was not an argumentative personality. The more we contend with others, the more we are taken captive by the spirit of contention. We become subject to the spirit we submit to follow. those who are prone to contention become more contentious as they listen to that spirit. Eventually they are overcome by that spirit, and it’s a great work involving great effort to subdue and dismiss that spirit from the heart and the mind of the victim.”<br />
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I think I'm gonna shut up about the G&S now for awhile.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-73167142906637403352017-12-14T11:39:00.001-05:002017-12-14T11:39:19.427-05:00What I'm hoping to see in "The Last Jedi" <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Note: this post contains no spoilers for Episode 8: The Last Jedi, but will thoroughly discuss the other movies. If you haven't heard that Vader is Luke's father, stop reading now.<br />
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The diminutive Yoda was a dead ringer for noted shorty Spencer W. Kimball, and the Force was the <a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/jst/jst-gen/14.html?lang=eng" target="_blank">priesthood power</a> I really wanted to have. <br />
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In Luke, I saw his transformation from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X66jntR0MVE" target="_blank">whiny kid</a> to calm, <a href="https://youtu.be/s0RStzGwO2Q?t=1m20s" target="_blank">confident Jedi</a> who had <a href="https://youtu.be/-sJEQMGvpLs?t=2m34s" target="_blank">no fear of death</a> parallel that of Joseph Smith, long before I ever heard of Joseph Campbell or the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_8uLrEyxg" target="_blank">Hero's Journey</a>.<br />
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With the prequels...well, lets just say that I had to put some things on the shelf. <br />
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Even so, meesa thought there was still a lot to like in the prequels. The Republic became an the Empire through a secret combination that would make Amalikiah proud. Palpatine played both sides of a galactic civil war to create an Empire with himself as Emperor.<br />
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But one thing that bugged me was the Jedi Council. There were so many Jedi, and they still couldn't see the dark side threat right in front of their faces, and when it was finally revealed, they couldn't deal with it. They lacked the power of discernment that one <a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/10.37" target="_blank">might expect a prophet</a> to have. <br />
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But why?<br />
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Maybe it was because they spent too much time <a href="https://youtu.be/3tav3bI4M6I?t=15s" target="_blank">worrying about ranks</a> and hierarchies. Maybe they thought they had a <a href="https://youtu.be/iiU4bh3zX0E?t=9s" target="_blank">guarantee that they would have the foresight</a> to see any possible Sith menace. <br />
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The Jedi Council had true Buddhist teachings about desire and attachment--"train yourself to let go of anything you fear to lose."<br />
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But they took this teaching and built a hedge around it: they banned all attachments and romantic relationships because they <i>might </i>lead to jealousy. <a href="https://latterdaycommentary.com/2015/04/22/hedging-the-law-two-variations-on-a-theme/" target="_blank">Read log's post on hedging the law here</a>. <br />
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Another teaching that Yoda had right was about fear--<br />
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But the motivations behind hedging the law are, as far as I can tell, out of a fear of sin. Fear of jealousy led to a Jedi Talmud of sorts--the traditions of men supplanting the revelations of God.<br />
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So what am I hoping to see out of The Last Jedi? I hope Luke finds a restoration of the true teachings of the Force. I have seen hints around the internet of something called "<a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1649269/what-star-wars-journal-of-the-whills-are-and-why-theyll-be-really-important" target="_blank">The Journal of the Whills</a>".<br />
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A snippet of Journal of the Whills appeared in the novelization of The Force Awakens. <br />
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The phrase "the resolving of gray through refined Jedi sight" feels reminiscent of <a href="https://www.scribd.com/document/4462609/Max-Skousen-Looking-Beyond-the-Mark" target="_blank">Max Skousen's </a>view of the Tree of Knowledge vs Tree of Life-- not believing that you have all the answers, and trusting in God's ability to save us.<br />
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In summary, what I'm hoping for in The Last Jedi, is that after the Jedi, will come something better than Jedi.<br />
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Next week: How Rick is a metaphor for Denver Snuffer and Morty is a metaphor for <a href="http://logscabin.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Log</a>.<br />
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-30894860867874641172017-12-13T10:18:00.000-05:002017-12-13T10:18:38.822-05:00What does it take to get rejected?Something else that's been on my mind is that, given the fact that this movement has no assurance of success, (<a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/21.22-24" target="_blank">Israel can do Zion without most of us</a>) I worry that we might be failing and not know it. If we believe PTHG, then although the Nauvoo saints were granted "sufficient time", the clock ran out on the LDS in 1844 and the church <a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/124.32" target="_blank">was rejected</a>. <a href="https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Criticism_of_Mormonism/Books/Passing_the_Heavenly_Gift/The_Nauvoo_temple_was_not_built_with_enough_speed" target="_blank">Those arguing against PTHG</a> mention that Joseph didn't make much effort to warn the LDS that time was running out. <br />
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This is all PTHG says about Joseph's warnings:<br />
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It is critical to know when the time period of that “appointment” ended. Latter-day teaching assumes the appointment was kept, and the condition met. The presumption is based on the fact that a small group of saints left behind to complete the work on the temple after the church abandoned the site, dedicated it just before they also abandoned the city. </blockquote>
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Two and a half years after the revelation was given, Joseph reminded the saints they needed to complete the Temple. “He said that he could not reveal the fullness of these things until the Temple is completed[.]” </blockquote>
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The Saints have not too much time to save and redeem their dead, and gather together their living relatives, that they may be saved also, before the earth will be smitten, and the consumption decreed falls upon the world. </blockquote>
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I would advise all the Saints to go with their might and gather together all their living relatives to this place, that they may be sealed and saved, that they may be prepared against the day that the destroying angel goes forth; and if the whole Church should go to with all their might to save their dead, seal their posterity, and gather their living friends, and spend none of their time in behalf of the world, they would hardly get through before night would come, when no man can work; and my only trouble at the present time is concerning ourselves, that the Saints will be divided, broken up, and scattered, before we get our salvation secure; for there are so many fools in the world for the devil to operate upon, it gives him the advantage oftentimes.” (TPJS, p. 330-331.)</blockquote>
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That's not much. One would think that Joseph would give a talk on this every week if the saints were in danger of being rejected over it. But again, I'm not worried about the Nauvoo saints. I'm worried about us. Given the paucity of Joseph's warnings, it is possible that we are also in danger of being rejected and we don't know it.<br />
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If Joseph had threatened the Saints with rejection every week, he possibly could have gotten a temple built before June 1844, but without the saints doing the things God asked, the result still would've been the same.<br />
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We might have a similar command hanging over our collective heads, where "if we write a guide and standard, <b>and do not the things that [God] say[s],</b> <span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;">[God] will not perform the </span><span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;">oath</span><span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;"> which [He] make unto you, neither fulfil the promises which ye expect at [His] hands. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;">So if we write the best guide and standard ever, but neglect to keep the commandments in the process, either by going beyond Question 2 <i>in the content</i> of the G&S</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;">---then God may not provide the promises that we expect.</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-77362770047209690652017-12-12T19:53:00.002-05:002017-12-12T20:16:43.266-05:00Usually folks wait 'til a prophet is dead before they turn him into their ventriloquist puppet.<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">We trust Dave. <a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/jst/jst-mark/9.html?lang=eng" target="_blank">I trust Dave</a>. But we have to be able to have more prophets than Dave. We almost did. <a href="http://atbmblog.blogspot.com/2017/11/a-parable.html" target="_blank">Jeff Savage wrote some stuff and it almost got included in our scriptures</a>. I'll leave it for the readers to decide whether it was God's words or not. At any rate, the early Statement of Principles was rejected and the assignment was changed. If our hearts were right it would have been a light thing. It has not been a light thing, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_tollens" target="_blank">therefore</a> <a href="http://atbmblog.blogspot.com/2017/11/contradictions-part-2-where-do-we-go.html" target="_blank">our hearts must not have been right</a>.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">While the Answer and Covenant forbids Dave from participating in this process, he has refused to participate in the process going back as far as the June meeting at the Bartels' house. If I might speculate on why, this blogpost might shed light on Dave's motivations:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">It was easy for Joseph to make himself indispensable. It was tempting to do so. But he and the saints would have been better off had he refused to shoulder responsibilities that belonged to others. There are incidents along the way that can be identified as moments when Joseph could have seen a pattern emerging. One example was in November 1831 when a conference was convened to approve publication of the Book of Commandments. The book would need a preface. A committee was assigned to draft the preface. “[William] McLellin said that he, Sidney Rigdon, and Oliver Cowdery had been given the assignment to write the preface to the Book of Commandments, but when they presented their draft to the conference, the ‘Conference picked it all to pieces’ and requested that J[oseph] S[mith] petition the Lord for a preface. After J[oseph] S[mith] and the elders bowed in prayer, JS, who was ‘sitting by a window,’ dictated the preface ‘by the Spirit,’ while Rigdon served as scribe."(Joseph Smith Papers, Documents Vol. 2: July 1831-January 1833, p. 104.) He then dictated what has become D&C Section 1. </span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">What if Joseph had refused? What if he told them God had a revelation, but the committee should receive it? What if Joseph insisted others perform their duties, rather than relieving them of their responsibility? Had he declined in November 1831, would the talk given in May 1842 have been necessary?</span></blockquote>
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<span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">We are going to make mistakes, but we should not make the same ones. Sometimes the only way for people to become better acquainted with the Lord is for those who know Him to remain silent and allow others to go before Him in prayer for themselves. Why intervene to prevent others from gaining strength and experience for themselves?</span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Joseph handicapped the saints by taking too much of their responsibility on himself. The saints refused to let him alone and required him to be their answer-man. The best thing Joseph could have done would have been to keep riding when he crossed the Mississippi River with Hyrum. He should have headed to the Rocky Mountains. He didn't. The saints continued to depend on him. When he died, they were unable to call down a revelation for themselves. No one proposed to solve succession by revelation</span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">So, instead of Dave volunteering to write a statement of principles for us, we have conscripted him to write one for us against his will. Not in the <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100157/" target="_blank">Misery</a> sense of course, we aren't </span>savages, but we've just decided that we will reuse <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f00uw-EY3Ew" style="font-family: inherit;" target="_blank">reissue, repackage, reevaluate</a> Dave's words to form our statement of principles. (I know, I know, I should have brought this up before the lots idea was voted on.)</div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">What we've done might be a first in the history of religion. Usually people wait until a prophet is dead to repurpose his words. But we've done it while Dave is still alive. And if Dave told us not to, then he would be participating, and hence doing the <a href="http://atbmblog.blogspot.com/2017/11/daves-strongman-catch-22.html" target="_blank">strongman</a> thing he's tried so strenuously to </span></span>avoid.<br />
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<span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;">In summary, even if we're doing the G&S wrong by making Denver Snuffer participate in the process, if not in body but only in the use of his words, we can't expect Denver to tell us we're doing it wrong, because then he'd be participating.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314); orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="color: #333333;">And if Dave starts off his next talk with a rendition of </span><a href="https://youtu.be/CfZiAiYNcI8?t=10s" style="color: #333333;" target="_blank">Moon River</a><span style="color: #333333;">, (no offense to Dr. Platt) it's because he's getting used to the sensation of </span></span><span style="background-color: rgba(255 , 255 , 255 , 0.00784314); color: #333333;">a covenant people putting its collective hand up his ass to make him our ventriloquist puppet.</span><br />
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<br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886473600643627067.post-73831274867237081262017-12-04T11:55:00.000-05:002017-12-04T12:12:44.984-05:00Which one would serve a stranger the best?<a href="http://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/p/the-rock-of-jesus-christ.html" target="_blank">The Rock of Jesus Christ--the DoC and the Sermon</a>--for some reason, has been omitted from the next round of voting. I think this is done in error.<br />
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Just because <a href="https://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/2017/11/a-guide-and-standard-chosen-by-lots_26.html?showComment=1511979669270#c6437958684532113276" target="_blank">Log</a> <a href="https://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/2017/11/a-guide-and-standard-chosen-by-lots_22.html?showComment=1511407723477#c6731817595813705492" target="_blank">is</a> <a href="https://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/2017/12/which-one-would-serve-stranger-best.html?showComment=1512364567186#c1082813113020147221" target="_blank">a</a> <a href="https://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/2017/12/a-guide-and-standard-chosen-by-lots.html?showComment=1512351801736#c6683245601934477005" target="_blank">bit</a>...<a href="https://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/2017/11/committee-g-update-answering-questions.html?showComment=1512055999109#c4815976713798364051" target="_blank">intransigent</a> about this doesn't mean that his proposal should be automatically disqualified.<br />
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It fits <a href="http://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/2017/12/which-one-would-serve-stranger-best.html" target="_blank">the criteria</a>:<br />
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1. Log has repeatedly invited input on it at <a href="http://www.remnantofjacobforum.com/viewforum.php?f=37&sid=7953db2d3ebbab9f1b33d374a05a3af0" target="_blank">http://www.remnantofjacobforum.com/ </a>. It isn't just Log's statement--my wife and I, and I imagine others, have given input.<br />
2. It is a statement.<br />
3. It has just as much mutual agreement as any other G&S, which is to say, it doesn't.<br />
4. It is the most important stuff for a newcomer to know. Additionally, it is parsimonious--it says the most important stuff in the fewest words.<br />
5. Except for two introductory sentences, it is entirely made of the words of Christ, and the most important ones at that. What could be wiser than the words of Christ?<br />
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I'm not saying that the DoC and Sermon absolutely has to be the only possible G&S, but it would be Bold AF to say that the DoC and Sermon is who we are striving to be. <br />
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I'm willing to bet a thousand dollars that The Rock of Jesus Christ--<a href="http://guideandstandard.blogspot.com/p/the-rock-of-jesus-christ.html" target="_blank">the DoC and the Sermon</a>--would get at least 33% of the votes if it was put to a vote against the Aug 5 document, the 7 Lotsters' document, and the original Savage version. It should be included in the voting process.<br />
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If <a href="http://www.recordersclearinghouse.com/" target="_blank">Keith Henderson </a>is willing to act as Central Bookie, I offer this bet.<br />
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"<a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/121.43" target="_blank">Reproving betimes with sharpness, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost</a>"</div>
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Many times I have reproved with sharpness. I'm not sure I've ever been moved upon to do so by the Holy Ghost.</div>
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